Thursday, January 2, 2014

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On the Baptism of the Holy Spirit:
 
"Before the emergence of the holiness movement in the mid-19th century and Pentecostalism in the early 20th century, most denominations believed that Christians received the baptism with the Holy Spirit either upon conversion and regeneration[." 
 
Amen. 
 
"Jesus is considered the first person to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit.[14] The Holy Spirit descended on Jesus during his baptism, and he was anointed with power."  In this account, Jesus was water baptized and baptized in the Holy Spirit at the exact same moment.  They were NOT two different experiences. 
 
"The phrase "baptized in the Holy Spirit" occurs two times in Acts, first in Acts 1:4-5 and second in Acts 11:16."  These accounts are at Pentecost and when the Gentiles received the Holy Spirit for the first time.  This event, and the Gentiles speaking on tongues, was meant to prove to the Jews that Gentiles could also be saved. 
 
"In mid-19th century America, the Wesleyan holiness movement began to teach that entire sanctification was less a process and more of a state that one entered into by faith at a definite moment in time. This second blessing, as it was commonly called, allowed Christians to be freed from the power of sin." 
 
That is a very heretical belief.  Christians in this life will never be totally freed from the power of sin.  No where in the Bible does it say that!  Paul says, "Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect...."  Paul was never made perfect and he was Paul!  He always struggled with his flesh in this life.  We will NOT be made perfect or be totally freed from the power of sin until we reach heaven. 
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_with_the_Holy_Spirit

Being Slain in the Spirit:

Here are some odd statements about being slain in the spirit from Wikipedia: 

"Being slain in the Spirit was extremely common in late eighteenth-century Methodism, particularly at camp meetings and love feasts."

Why were they called "love feasts?"  That sounds a bit odd I think. 

"They perceive the Spirit of God upon them and they fall, usually onto their backs."   


In the Bible people always fell in their faces before God, not their backs. 

""Slain in the Spirit" is a term used in charismatic Christianity to describe a religious behavior in which an individual falls to the floor."

Why doesn't anyone think twice about how odd the term slain is?  To slay something is to kill it.  But Jesus came that we might have life, not be slain right?  :(

"In the Bible the word slain refers to murder and death."  lol yes.

"When the scriptures refer to falling backwards it denotes evil, shame and often death."

Wikipedia is so reasonable and rational.  Yes falling backwards signified judgment, as in the case when the people fell backwards in coming to arrest Jesus.  That was not a good thing that they fell back.  That was a bad thing.  God was against them, NOT for them. 

"There are two scriptures in the Bible that refer to a Christian falling down. In Acts 5:5: And Ananias hearing these words, fell down and gave up the ghost. Acts 9:4: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? In the first scripture Acts 5: 5 talks about the death of Ananias. The second Acts, 9:4, Paul falls because he heard the voice of the Lord."

Yep.

"Some critics say that the practice is neither described nor prescribed specifically in the Bible, and that it is, at best, of satanic origin."  Yes I would say so.

"Other sources of the phenomenon can be autosuggestion, peer pressure, or a desire to experience what others have experienced.[1] Perhaps the most obvious sociological category is the "possession trance."[1] A similar state that could be described as religious ecstasy may occur in the rituals and dances of other religious and cultural traditions; for example Kundalini awakening through shaktipat."  Wow. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slain_in_the_Spirit

Holy Laughter:

"Holy laughter is a term used within charismatic Christianity that describes a religious behaviour in which individuals spontaneously laugh during church meetings. It began in the early 1990s in Neo-charismatic churches and the Third Wave of the Holy Spirit."

This is a VERY recent phenomenon in the charismatic movement, and you know what they say, if it's new, it isn't true. 

"John Wesley encountered uncontrollable laughter in his meetings, but viewed it as an act of the devil."  Interesting. 

"The laughter ranges from very quiet to loud convulsive hysterics, which are said to be accompanied by temporary dissociation."  Dissociation is usually a kind of possession, in a spiritual understanding of the psychology and what happens to a person. 

"Philip Richter of STETS has drawn a parallel between holy laughter and Laughter Yoga."  Oh dear :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_laughter


The Toronto Blessing:

"The Toronto blessing began at the Airport church, now called Catch the Fire, when pastors John and Carol Arnott were inspired by revivals in Argentina, led by Claudio Freidzen, and in South Africa."

I knew this had to have a foreign element to it.  The "blessing" or "anointing" is no doubt something from a pagan religion that they tried to infiltrate Christianity with. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Blessing


Thoughts on any of this? 


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